Fred Thompson for president?
Fred Thompson for president?
How to built a 1:2.5 scale Sherman tank!
Very cool!
Maybe someday I will make one. Or a similar sized M1 Abrahms and a Iraqi T-72 so we could have battles in the street.
Or something like that.
Found some 2 inch hexagonal tiles at Home Depot the other day. 2 Inch hexes are what Axis & Allies miniatures use. It was $27.50 for roughly 12 square feet. I think the table over at Glenda & Dean’s is 18 square feet. Think we can also use the hexes for the Lord of the Rings miniatures game, and for Mechwarrior/Battletech.
Also got some flying bases in, so I mounted the planes I have and set some stuff up on the hexagonal tiles to see how it all looked.
Thinking about making a Middle East/North African themed terrain board, with an arabic village and maybe some roman ruins and a sphynx or something. I think I’ll mount the hexes to something a bit more secure (they’re just barely glued together), maybe some foam board, then paint it all deserty colors. If I find a decent scale I can mix up some silicone and get to making molds of the arabic style houses I have and some other odds and ends: walls, ruins, barrels, stuff like that. Then I just mix up some plaster and can make as many copies as needed to really flush out the board.
This is kinda neat. A video done by the Marines called “Concealment does NOT equal Cover”.
I noticed that the .308 (7.62×54mm) caliber weapons had _no_ problems penetrating the wood, brick, cinder block or plate glass. Or the kevlar helmets and frag vests, for that matter. So why is it that we still use .223 (5.56×45mm)?
Also was wondering why they tested the weapons on a room constructed in the US style. Most of the buildings I saw in the Middle East and in Columbia were of concrete construction. Lots of stuff in Europe is old and is concrete or stone. Most of the world does not use 2×4s with sheetrock and a brick veneer. Maybe they were just trying to make the .223 weapons look at least halfway decent? Dunno.
Still some good lessons for us here in the US. Don’t depend on the outside of your house for stopping bullets. Unless you have a cinderblock or concrete house, or maybe sheet steel inserts. hmmm….sheet steel inserts…
Oh, and the 30mm chaingun vs. the structure, and the SMAW hitting the sandbagged position made me laugh outloud. ‘Specially when the sandbasgs go flying everywhere.
“Since the National Firearms Act was signed into law in 1934, the number of gun control laws at all levels of government have multiplied exponentially. So has the overall crime rate, which some argue is a direct result of gun control laws that discourage self-defense.
Although none of these laws reduced crime, each new law creates another way that a well intentioned gun owner can inadvertently end up in prison or ruined by legal costs. Some have been killed in raids by government agents. Much like laws passed to promote the failed war on drugs, each new gun law gives the police additional powers that threaten basic constitutional rights.
America’s lawful gun owners are painfully aware of these facts. Since gun laws don’t reduce crime, they wonder, what is the real purpose? This question has led to numerous theories that attempt to explain why the “ruling elite”, which includes the media and many politicians, would want to eliminate civilian gun ownership in America. American gun owners feel as if they are being slowly crushed. One writer recently described this decades-long campaign as a slow motion hate crime.” - Dr. Michael S. Brown
“The most telling fact in all of this is that any law passed in violation of the Constitution is null and void at its conception. The reason government can enforce unconstitutional laws is that it has us outgunned and is much more willing to use (force) than are we, the people. ” - Phil Lydic
Updated my comments anti-spam thingy today. Hopefully it gets rid of most of the spam automatically. As it was up till now I have to manually go through the comments log and decide what is spam and what is not. Thankfully the spammers are lazy and most of the time there will be three or more of the same “comment” in a row so it’s fairly easy to skim through and decide, but still, habing to do that for 200+ comments a day is a pain in the ass. Especially since I average about one real comment a week.
“On Friday evening, a gunwriter who was apparently tired of his 42-year career put his word processor in his mouth and pulled the trigger.” -Tam
huh? wondering what that’s about?
Tipping Point — Suicide on the Web
“Jim basically committed career suicide. In short, he wrote in his blog on the Outdoor Life web site that he had just learned (while on a hunt) that some people use AR-15 rifles for hunting. He offered his thought that this was a bad image for hunters. Okay, that’s his opinion. But, he went even further, calling for game departments to ban the use of these rifles for hunting. After crossing the line and calling for a banning of those guns for hunting, he firmly planted his foot on a land mine and called AR-15s “terrorist rifles.” The explosion from that misstep was heard throughout the firearms industry.”
Update:
From Zumbo’s posting over on Ted Nuggent’s forum:
“The last few days have been an educational experience, to say the least. My ill-conceived inflammatory blog, as all of you now know, set off a firestorm that, I’m told, has never before been equaled. I’m not proud of that.
Let me say this at the outset. My words here are from the heart, and all mine. No one can censor me, and I answer to no one but myself. And I have no one to blame but myself. Outdoor Life, a magazine that I worked for full-time as Hunting Editor for almost 30 years, fired me yesterday. My TV show was cancelled yesterday. Many of my sponsors have issued statements on their website to sever all relationships. This may cause many of you to do backflips and dance in the streets, but, of course, I’m not laughing, nor am I looking for sympathy. I don’t want a pity party.
They say hindsight is golden. Looking back, I can’t believe I said the words “ban” and “terrorist” in the context that I did. I don’t know what I was thinking when I wrote that. I can explain this as sheer ignorance and an irresponsible use of words. What I’ve learned over the last few days has enlightened and amazed me. As a guy who hunts 200 days a year, does seminars on hunting, wrote for six hunting magazines, had a hunting TV show, and wrote 20 books on hunting, how could I have been so ignorant and out of touch with reality in the world of hunting and shooting?
But I was. I really can’t explain it, maybe because I just summarily dismissed the firearms in question in my mind when I saw them in magazines and catalogs. I saw one “black” firearm in a hunting camp in all my 50 years of hunting, and I shot one last year off a boat when fishing in Alaska. To tell the truth, it was fun and I enjoyed it immensely, but I never considered one for use in hunting. I have to tell you that I have had a revelation. I’m learning that many of my pals own AR-15’s and similar firearms and indeed use them for hunting. I was totally unaware that they were being used for legitimate hunting purposes. That is the absolute truth.
My biggest regret is not the financial impact of all this. I’m almost 67 and retirement is an option. The dreadful impact here is that I inadvertently struck a spear into the hearts of the people I love most…America’s gun owners. And, even though this huge cadre of dedicated people have succeeded in stripping me of my career, I hold no grudges. I will continue to stand as firm on pro hunting as I’ve ever done. But what’s different now is that I’ll do all I can to educate others who are, or were, as ignorant as I was about “black” rifles and the controversy that surrounds them. My promise to you is that I’ll learn all I can about these firearms, and by the time this week is out, I’ll order one. The NUGE has invited me to hunt with him using AR-15’s, and I’m eager to go, and learn. I’ll do all I can to spread the word.
I understand that many of you will not accept this apology, believing that the damage has been done and there’s no way to repair it. You have that right. But let me say this. I mentioned this above, and I’ll repeat it. I’m willing to seize this opportunity to educate hunters and shooters who shared my ignorance. If you’re willing to allow me to do that, we can indeed, in my mind, form a stronger bond within our ranks. Maybe in a roundabout way we can bring something good out of this.
Jim Zumbo”
Good to hear. _That_ was the apology he should’ve written to begin with. It takes a big man with a right mind to realize when they’ve made a mistake, although in this case, figuring out he’d made a mistake was pretty easy. It takes an even bigger man to dedicate themselves to correcting that mistake, accepting the responsibilities of his actions and moving forward to fix it.
I look forward to hearing about his conversion to the “dark (ie black rifle) side”.
Are we still in the first 100 hours of the new congress? Anyway, they’ve already put up a new “assault weapon” ban, here’s the text.
grrrrr…
It is so stupid to make some guns as evil because of cosmetics. “Ohhh, that gun is black, it must be bad, but this pink one is just dandy!”
gah.
Well, let’s take a look at it:
“ SEC. 3. DEFINITIONS.
(a) In General- Section 921(a)(30) of title 18, United States Code, as added by section 2(a) of this Act, is amended to read as follows:
`(30) The term `semiautomatic assault weapon’ means any of the following:
`(A) The following rifles or copies or duplicates thereof:
`(i) AK, AKM, AKS, AK-47, AK-74, ARM, MAK90, Misr, NHM 90, NHM 91, SA 85, SA 93, VEPR; Got one. if they are banning all “copies or duplicates” then why list all the various ones here? why not just say “AK and AKM” since all the others are copies or duplicates of that.
`(ii) AR-10; this is a .308 version of the AR15, made by Armalite. wonder if they’ll also specify the SR-25, and the DPMS versions.
`(iii) AR-15, Bushmaster XM15, Armalite M15, or Olympic Arms PCR; got one
`(iv) AR70; does Beretta even make these anymore?
`(v) Calico Liberty; I’m pretty sure these guys are out of business, least I haven’t seen any new Calicos since the 80s or early 90s.
`(vi) Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU;
`(vii) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, or FNC; got a FAL, although mine was not made by FN, wonder if it’d still be banned?
`(viii) Hi-Point Carbine; wow. they designed and built this rifle during the last ban to comply with all the rules, it was not an assault weapon, so this time they just added it in by name. nice.
`(ix) HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, or HK-PSG-1; don’t have a HK, but I do have a Spanish CETME, which is the exact same thing, the Germans at HK license the CETME to make their G3, which is the full auto version of the HK91 (which is semi-auto)
`(x) Kel-Tec Sub Rifle; again, another one that was designed and built during the last AWB to comply with all the rules, so this time it just gets added to the list by name. it’s funny that this and the Hi Point don;t meet any of the definitions for an assault weapon but they are included in the list anyway. kinda says that they’re not just after eeeeevil assault weapons, but after all firearms, now doesn’t it?
`(xi) M1 Carbine; as soon as the ODCMP release their’s for sale I’ll be buying a genuine USGI one
`(xii) Saiga; ummm..Saiga is a manufacturer, not a rifle type. Are they saying anything made by them is not allowed? wow, don’t think anyone else is on the list that way, wonder what the russians did to piss them off so bad? of course, all the Saiga semi-autos are AK based, so they’d be covered by that anyway.
`(xiii) SAR-8, SAR-4800; the SAR-8 is a HK91 copy, I think made in Greece on HK licensed tooling. The SAR-4800 is a FAL copy, I think made under license in Brazil. why list them seperately when the parent rifles are both listed?
`(xiv) SKS with detachable magazine; hmmm…I have a SKS, but it does not have a detachable magazine on it, although I do own some, I think they suck so I don’t use them. wonder if that counts?
`(xv) SLG 95; weird, this is a Cetme or HK91 clone, just made in Portugal. wonder why it has it’s own section? maybe the people who made this list are clueless about firearms? naaaaah….
`(xvi) SLR 95 or 96; these are Bulgarian made AKs. again, why list them seperately?
`(xvii) Steyr AUG;
`(xviii) Sturm, Ruger Mini-14; HAHAHAHAHAHA! Old man Ruger made a deal with the devil last time so that his Mini-14 and Mini-30 were not added to the list. Not only did that piss off future customers, but now it looks like the devil decided to stab him in the back anyway. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! it is interesting that the Mini-30 is not listed, is that because they don’t know about it, or because it’s based on the mini-14 action?
`(xix) Tavor;
`(xx) Thompson 1927, Thompson M1, or Thompson 1927 Commando; or
`(xxi) Uzi, Galil and Uzi Sporter, Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle (Galatz). odd that they lump togehter the Uzi and the Galil, they are very different rifles, the Galil is actually an AK variant, I’d think it would be listed there.
`(B) The following pistols or copies or duplicates thereof:
`(i) Calico M-110;
`(ii) MAC-10, MAC-11, or MPA3;
`(iii) Olympic Arms OA;
`(iv) TEC-9, TEC-DC9, TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10; or
`(v) Uzi. ummm…they listed the Uzi in the rifle & in the pistol section.
`(C) The following shotguns or copies or duplicates thereof:
`(i) Armscor 30 BG;
`(ii) SPAS 12 or LAW 12;
`(iii) Striker 12; or
`(iv) Streetsweeper.
`(D) A semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine, and that has–
`(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
`(ii) a threaded barrel;
`(iii) a pistol grip;
`(iv) a forward grip; or
`(v) a barrel shroud.
Interesting, this is different than the last AWB. Last time it was banned if it accepted a detachable magazine and had two or more of the list of offending items. I do notice that they took off flash hiders and grenade lauchers from the list, although they still in efect get banned because you need a threaded barrel to put them on (the granade launcher in question was just the fact that the outer diameter of the flash hider or muzzle break was 22mm in diameter and that meant that NATO rifle grenades [and bayonets] could be fitted over the device . Since NATO rifle grenades are veryvery hard to come by legally in the US, it was ridiculous to put it on there last time, but they got lots of good press for being “against grenade launchers”) This time, it looks like any semi-auto is gonna be banned, because there are very few that are made without pistol grips and the ability to accept a detachable magazine. And I can’t think of any .50 caliber riles that are semi-automatic that don’t have both detachable magazines and a pistol grip, so it looks like, without ever mentioning .50 caliber firaerms, they’re gonna ban them all.
`(E)(i) Except as provided in clause (ii), a semiautomatic rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds. hmmm…so my original chinese SKS with it’s original chinese issue 20 round fixed magazine now becomes an assault rifle.
`(ii) Clause (i) shall not apply to an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition. well that’s good, ’cause otherwise everyone who owned a Marlin Model 60 would have an eeeeeeevil assault rifle since it’s tube holds 14 rounds. In New Jersey it is considered an assault rifle! but a ruger 10/22 could still be an assault rifle since it takes detachable magazines. huh. If I leave Uncle Paul’s old 10/22 as it is, it looks like this, it’s ok. But take the wooden stock off and put on one of these stocks and suddenly you have an eeeevil assault rifle. Same dang gun, just different stocks. And that, right there, is the whole problem with these bans, they don’t do any good, it’s all cosmetics.
`(F) A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, and has–
`(i) a second pistol grip;
`(ii) a threaded barrel;
`(iii) a barrel shroud; or
`(iv) the capacity to accept a detachable magazine at a location outside of the pistol grip.
`(G) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
`(H) A semiautomatic shotgun that has–
`(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
`(ii) a pistol grip;
`(iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine; or
`(iv) a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds.
`(I) A shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
`(J) A frame or receiver that is identical to, or based substantially on the frame or receiver of, a firearm described in any of subparagraphs (A) through (I) or (L).
`(K) A conversion kit.
`(L) A semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General. In making the determination, there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any Federal law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a firearm shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event.’. This one really bugs me. For, well I don’t know how long, but over 60 years, people have been competing in high power matches with M1 Garands (which were originally desinged for our millitary), M14s (designed for our military), and AR15s (umm…also designed for the millitary). I competed in a John C. Garand Match with an Indian bolt action rifle, procured for their millitary/police, and shot against folks with the above listed rifles as well as M1 Carbines (used by the millitary in WWII, Korea, and Vietnam), Mini14s, SKSs, and I think there may have been a guy there with an AK. All are rifles that either served in the military or are copies or derivatives thereof. I compete in Three Gun Matches with my AR15, a rifle originally designed for the military. I compete against guys using FALs, the various HKs(91, G3, 94, 41), M1 Carbines, M1 Garands, M14s, the .223 Kelt-Tec whatever it’s called, AKs, and just about every other semi-auto rifle you could think of. But even though they are used for sporting competitions, they still want to ban them as unsporting. WTF? I will not even get into how the 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with sports to begin with, that’s a whole nother rant. Gah!
Edited to add: I will say this, though, “A semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm” are the exact rifles that the Second Amendment is talking about. It’s not talking about hunting rifles, or plinking rifles, it’s talking about rifles designed for war.
(b) Related Definitions- Section 921(a) of such title is amended by adding at the end the following:
`(36) Barrel Shroud- The term `barrel shroud’ means a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel of a firearm so that the shroud protects the user of the firearm from heat generated by the barrel, but does not include a slide that encloses the barrel, and does not include an extension of the stock along the bottom of the barrel which does not encircle or substantially encircle the barrel. yeah, lets get rid of safety features! woo-hoo! probably the only time, aside from the whole silencer/suppressor thing, that the US gov’t is against safety features. oh yeah, they are also against the safety sear on FAL type rifles, so they are inherrently not as safe as they were designed to be, and might explode. Makes shooting them sooo much more fun.
`(37) Conversion Kit- The term `conversion kit’ means any part or combination of parts designed and intended for use in converting a firearm into a semiautomatic assault weapon, and any combination of parts from which a semiautomatic assault weapon can be assembled if the parts are in the possession or under the control of a person. oh, so I guess my SKS would then bcome an assault weapon, because I do have detachable magazines for it even though I don’ t have them installed and never will since they suck.
`(38) Detachable Magazine- The term `detachable magazine’ means an ammunition feeding device that can readily be inserted into a firearm. wonder if stripper clips are now considered detachable magazones, they do fit the definition. hmmm…
`(39) Fixed Magazine- The term `fixed magazine’ means an ammunition feeding device contained in, or permanently attached to, a firearm.
`(40) Folding or Telescoping Stock- The term `folding or telescoping stock’ means a stock that folds, telescopes, or otherwise operates to reduce the length, size, or any other dimension, or otherwise enhances the concealability, of a firearm.
`(41) Forward Grip- The term `forward grip’ means a grip located forward of the trigger that functions as a pistol grip.
`(42) Pistol Grip- The term `pistol grip’ means a grip, a thumbhole stock, or any other characteristic that can function as a grip.
`(43) Threaded Barrel- The term `threaded barrel’ means a feature or characteristic that is designed in such a manner to allow for the attachment of a firearm as defined in section 5845(a) of the National Firearms Act (26 U.S.C. 5845(a)).’. huh? talk about a confusing definition! A threaded barrel is a feature that allows you to add a firearm to the gun? wtf? ”
$50 raffle tickets for a full auto Mac 11/9, fundraiser for the Pascagoula Shooting Club in Pascagoula, Mississippi
$25 raffle for a MP40, fundraiser for the Idaho Automatic Weapons Collectors Association.
Not bad, for $75 you could win two machine guns! The IAWCA has raffled off Uzis, Tommyguns, and M16s before. It’s a pretty good deal, they raise twice the money required to buy the machine gun, and someone gets a machinegun. It’s win-win! Sadly, so far it has never been Mike-win.
I have been looking for a copy of George Chinn’s series of books titled The Machine Gun for several years. Usually they command prices in the several hundreds, each. Col. Chinn wrote the series for the Navy, it’s the seminal work on how machine guns operate. A very cool series of books to own and read.
A few years ago I bought, for $75, the whole set on a few CDROMs, but the person who’d done the scanning did an incredibly piss poor job and most of the pages were unreadable. Smears were common, every page was distorted as it neared the crease in the middle. A pure waste of money. Man was I pissed that I’d bought it.
Then the other day I saw that a site on the internets had the four volume set available as 13 freely downloadable pdf files. Yay! While I have not read through them all, a quick glance shows them to be pretty good scans.
German Manuals is the site that has them. Enjoy!
Last time I was sick, a few weeks ago, started after I picked Dean and Glenda up from the airport and then a few days later he came over and we put all their Africa pics onto a DVD.
Was sick for a while. Nasty stuff, too.
Then a few days ago, Saturday, I went to the farm to work on their quickbooks problem, and started getting sick again. Really hit me hard Sunday, and yesterday. Dean and Glenda were both at the farm.
I think Dean is the carrier of whatever it is that I keep getting.
“NOT ACCEPTING ORDERS AT THIS TIME !!!
NEXT CARBINE EMAIL UPDATE WILL BE MARCH 23, 2007
Update – 16 February, 2007: We have started the inspection of the M1 Carbines that were recently transferred to the CMP. Because the carbines were received with the bolts removed and many are in heavy preservative, the process is taking longer than expected. The carbines will not be ready for sale on 1 March. We will begin accepting carbine orders for Inland carbines on 30 April, 2007. Carbine orders received prior to 30 April will be returned to the sender. Other manufacturers will not be available until later in the year. At this time no decisions have been made as to pricing. We are not accepting orders or establishing waiting lists at this time. Next CMP Sales update is planned for 23 March.
CARBINE AMMO. At this time CMP does not have any carbine ammo for sale. If we are successful in acquiring some, we will post the information on our website and also include it in the next CMP Sales Update.
We do not expect to find any ‘collector’ or ‘correct’ grades.
We do not expect to have a “field” grade for these carbines.
After all the carbines are inspected and graded, any remaining receivers or barreled receivers will be put up for sale at that time. We do not expect this to happen for another 12-18 months.
We do not have magazines, slings or oilers. Carbines will not be sold with magazines, slings, or oilers. If we are able to acquire any of these items, we will list them for sale separately at a later date.
M1 Carbine Service Grade
Carbines have been rebuilt and refinished at least once and will exhibit in most cases varying degrees of wear on many of the parts and generally no noticeable or significant pitting on metal. All the carbines have late features - such as adjustable sights (heavily staked) with bayonet lug bands and rotary safeties. Metal parts are mixed USGI. There are no carbines with early features. Muzzle will gauge 3 or less on muzzle gauge. Stocks will be replacement Italian marked M2 type birch or beech pot belly or USGI walnut but having seen heavy use with possible rebuild marks (no original stock cartouches remain). Most stocks have the “FAT” stamp / cartouche (Fabbrica Armi Terni ).“
Saw this over on BoingBoing:
“My grandfather is a polish-jew. In the 1920s-30s, EVERY jewish family had furniture with secret compartments - for storing valuables like jewelry and furs. At that time, jews were suffering persecution, had their homes raided, and were sometimes forced out of their homes in a few minutes.
He told me of fabulous chairs with secret drawers, double decked tables, mirrors with secret compartments behind them, and the such.
Sadly, when the Nazis came, they didn’t even give anyone the possibility to take the furniture (and when they did, everyone had to abandon them somewhere along the way in the extremely long forced marches)”
Maybe if they’d hidden firearms in them as well as jewelry, this could’ve been averted somewhat.
Interesting side note: the other day I heard on the radio Snopp Dogg was being charged in California for having a hidden compartment in his vehicle. Apparently it’s a crime there to have a hidden compartment. How odd.
There is an article on M1 Carbine shooting with accuracy over at the ODCMP, the people that will be, in March, selling 30,000 USGI M1 Carbines. The ones they are selling came from Italy, I hear. I hope to get one (or two depending on price-never hurts to have a spare, especially when the rifles are 60+ years old).
They don’t have prices listed yet, but did just put up some descriptions:
“M1 Carbine Rack Grade
Carbines have been refinished and rebuilt at least once and will exhibit in most cases varying degrees of wear on many parts. All the carbines have late features such as, adjustable sights (heavily staked) with bayonet lug bands and rotary safeties. Metal parts are mixed USGI. There are no carbines with early features. Minor pitting both exterior and in the bore may be seen on some carbines. Muzzle will gauge over a three (3) on gauge. Stocks are replacement Italian marked M2 birch or beech pot belly type or USGI walnut but having seen heavy use with rebuild marks (no original stock cartouches remain).
M1 Carbine Service Grade
Similar to Rack Grade having been refinished or rebuilt, but with less finish wear and generally no noticeable or significant pitting on metal. As above, all carbines have late features and mixed parts. Muzzle will gauge 3 or less. Stocks will be replacement Italian marked M2 type birch or beech pot belly or USGI walnut but having seen heavy use with possible rebuild marks (no original stock cartouches remain).”


By law, the CMP can sell surplus military firearms, ammunition, parts and other items only to members of CMP affiliated clubs who are also U.S. citizens, over 18 years of age and who are legally eligible to purchase a firearm.
U.S. Citizenship:
You must provide a copy of a U.S. birth certificate, passport, proof of naturalization, or any official government document that shows birth in the U.S. or states citizenship as U.S.
Age
You must provide proof of age. Usually proof of citizenship also provides proof of age. In those cases where it may not, a driver’s license is sufficient.
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You must provide a copy of your current membership card or other proof of membership. This requirement cannot be waived. The CMP currently has over 2,000 affiliated organizations located in many parts of the country.
Membership in many of these organizations costs $25.00 or less and can be accomplished online. A listing of affiliated organizations can be found by clicking on our Club Search web page at http://clubs.odcmp.com/cgi-bin/clubSearch.cgi. If you have any difficulty in locating a club, please contact the CMP at 256-835-8455 or by emailing custserve@odcmp.com. We will find one for you. In addition to shooting clubs, the CMP also has several special affiliates. Membership in these organizations satisfies our requirement for purchase. These special affiliates include: Congressionally chartered veterans’ organizations such as the VFW, AL, DAV, MCL, etc. U.S. Military services (active or reserves), National Guard, to include retirees. Professional 501(c)3 law enforcement organizations and associations such as the FOP, NAPO, NSA, etc.
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Club membership is NOT required for instructional publications or videos or CMP memorabilia.
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You must provide proof of participation in a marksmanship related activity or otherwise show familiarity with the safe handling of firearms and range procedures. Your marksmanship related activity does not have to be with highpower rifles; it can be with smallbore rifles, pistols, air guns or shotguns. Proof of marksmanship participation can be provided by documenting any of the following:
Current or past military service.
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Due to the thunderous applause that I received from the far-left over the “I Am Tired” letter written by one of our troops in Iraq, I thought it prudent to follow up with one last attempt to be very specific about what I have observed and actually personally encountered during my 36 years of service to this Great Country. This will be a one time attempt to reach some of those who are confused by the far-left and their ilk’s unethical rantings and give some insight through my personal experience as a professional military officer over the years. These examples are but a few. In real life there were many more which space and time will not allow.
As a young fighter pilot, flying F-4s in Vietnam, I was stopped in my tracks by the decisions made by Lyndon Johnson and Robert McNamara. I was young and naive, but even then I knew their daily interference was wrong and would not allow us to win this thing and go home. Decisions like not allowing us to strike enemy aircraft while still on the ground, keeping real targets off the target list, and allowing us to strike only rusted-out trucks made us basically a toothpick factory. However, the big one for me came the day I saw the President Lyndon Johnson on television, forcefully lying to the American people. I’ll never forget the language, “I want to assure the American people that the United States of America has never, and will never, bomb or use force inside the borders of Cambodia”. On and on he disavowed the reports that this was happening. I was amazed. Guess where I had put several F-4 loads of 750 pound general purpose bombs every day for the past five days. You guessed it, Cambodia!!! So much for Mr. Johnson. The only question in my mind was simply, “Was it just Johnson or was it the methodology of a particular political party?” I decided to delay answering that question until more experience was gained.
Years passed, and I ignored politics as much as possible, as a good military man should. Then came Jimmy Carter. Our young people don’t remember 18% interest rates and 18% inflation, but I’ll bet someone in your family does. That is one really bad thing Carter did for our country, but it is not the worst. During this period, I was an F-15 Squadron Commander, located at Langley AFB, VA. Jimmy Carter and his democratic party stopped spare parts procurement for almost every weapon system in our military, and diverted the funds to social programs. The F-15 was brand new at the time with leading edge technology designed to provide air superiority anywhere in the world on a moments notice. That was my job. I loved it, but guess what? In a two year period from 1979 to 1981, there was not one day when more that one-third of my assigned aircraft were flyable. It is amazing the lengths we went to in those days, cannibalizing parts, expending twice the time and energy to fix every little item, and still two-thirds of the birds were always broken because of no spare parts. Had this country faced a really serious military threat during that time frame, only Montana Hunters could have saved us. The military had some equipment, but it was all broken. Do you want to know the really bad part for me and the young fighter pilots working for me? Our flying sortie rate was so low that pilot proficiency dropped to dangerous levels. The accident rate tripled. That obviously was totally unacceptable, as we were losing expensive airplanes and highly trained young pilots at a rate comparable to losses seen in actual combat. All of a sudden, even a Texas Aggie like me began to see a trend.
Forward a few years to 1986. I am an F-16 Wing Commander at MacDill AFB, Florida, and Ronald Regan is president. His change in attitude and policy toward the military had time to fix the spare parts problem. We were flying 26,000 flying sorties per year out of MacDill AFB, my aircraft fully mission capable rate (FMC) was above 90%, the aircraft accident rate was below 1.75 per hundred thousand flying hours, fighter pilots were flying and proficiency levels were at an all time high. The United States Air Force was ready to defend this Wonderful Country. Proof of the pudding is simple. Look what the USAF, and the military in general, accomplished in Iraq during Desert Storm. And, they did it in less than 100 hours. Yeah, at this point I was starting to realize there was a difference in mentality between Democrats and Republicans, or should I say, the Right and the Left.
Then, came everyone’s favorite—Bill Clinton. If there ever was an individual 180 degrees out of sync with the ideals and the values of the US military, it was Clinton. He was a known draft dodger, military hating, self absorbed, unspeakingly shameless and immoral individual, who the Left managed to elect President of the United States of America. Clinton’s antics in the White House would have brought court martial, conviction, and Dishonorable Discharge had he been a military member. We still suffer oral sex on school buses, because the President told the world it wasn’t real sex, and some of our children believed him. It took a lot of years, but now I became certain. There is a big difference in the right and the left on all fronts, and for the first time I started feeling angry and shamed that the majority of the American people were actually willing to vote for such an individual.
Sometimes, an abstract such as the following tells the story in very simple terms: Jane Fonda, Tom Hayden, Lyndon Johnson, Robert McNamara, George Soros, Ted Kennedy, Howard Dean, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Michael Moore, Tim Robbins, Susan Sarandon, Sean Penn, Nancy Pelosi, Barbra Boxer, John Kerry, Benedict Arnold, and the list goes on. America, wake up. In my opinion, giving in to the likes of these people could allow Abraham Lincoln’s prediction of destruction from within to come true. There is not a country in the world that can be considered a conventional military threat to the United States today. However, this country faces a new kind of threat—one that will not go away. It is a threat even more serious that WWII, because money, industry and technology will not defeat it. It is a threat of defeat from within. It is a threat of a faltering economy because of a lack of resources, or the even the simple threat of such a loss brought on by terrorism. It is a threat created by the American people trusting the inept. It is a threat created by the people wanting change, and perilously believing that the left can successfully deliver that change. Have you seen anything from the left that remotely resembles an answer to the Iraq situation? Have you seen anything more than continued Bush-Bashing? Is that an answer? If there was ever a need for a strong, well trained military, it is now. THE LEFT HAS HISTORICALLY DISMANTLED OUR MILITARY IN THE NAME OF REDISTRUBITION OF WEALTH FAVORING SOCIAL PROGRAMS. We just cannot afford to let that happen now. If we do, the entire country may be bowing to the east several times a day within the next 50 years, maybe sooner.
Now a final thought meant to upset as many as possible on the far-left. As you might guess, I don’t believe in political correctness. So, let’s look at the facts, not far-left rhetoric attempting to empower the democratic party. Initially, I was not a George Bush fan. I am not even a Republican. I normally vote Republican, because of my total despise of Communism, Socialism and the far-left in this country. I am a Conservative. However, during his watch, I feel President Bush just happened to stumble upon the leading edge of the greatest threat this country has ever faced. Mistakes have been made, because of the newness of the threat. Overall, the President has done a superb job dealing the threat, and at the same time held off the constant ranting, raving, deceitful and malicious escapades of the far-left attempting to regain political power. IF THERE WAS EVER A TIME THE COUNTRY NEEDS TO COME TOGETHER AND BACK OUR PRESIDENT, IT IS RIGHT NOW. WITHOUT CONCENSUS WE ARE EMPOWERING THE TERRORIST!!!! I feel the far-left is totally absorbed with a power struggle and regaining control of congress. They could care less about defeating the threat. It literally disgusts me to hear the constant disagreement with everything the President tries to do, all in the name of trying to make him look bad to the voters. Unfortunately, by the time the American people really appreciate how bad the far-left really is, it may too late.
What are the real facts? On the home front this country’s economy is the strongest that it has been in my lifetime. Interest rates are as low as they were when I was in high school forty years ago. Inflation does not exist for all practical purposes. For you youngster’s, please remember the Jimmy Carter comments? The Dow is approaching 13,000. Unemployment is nonexistent. Wages are at an all time high. Home ownership is at an all time high. Taxes have been lowered to an almost acceptable level. Because of the surging economy the deficient is under control and projected to go away far ahead of schedule. The far-left is rich beyond its wildest dreams, so Mr. President when are you going to “fix” all these domestic problems? Give me a break!!!!
On the war front this country has not been touched since 2001. I remember being part of a seminar at the USAF War College in 1983 discussing the terrorist threat. There were some good minds at that table and a lot of disagreement. However, one common thought was that the US would be hit within the next five years. Answers to the terrorist threat were just as hard to come by then as they are now. Well, it took a little longer than the projection, but the attack occurred. For an old military guy like me, the main point here is that it has not happened again. We have suckered the bad guys into entering the fight somewhere other than in our country. To hell with political correctness. The President can’t say this, but I sure can. I smile every morning when I get up and realize that one of our great cities has not been blown away. And, there is zero doubt in my mind that if we pull out of Iraq prematurely, that will happen within a short period of time after our departure. I don’t care what you might think of President Bush personally. He has done the best he can with what he has, and this country is not smoking because of it. So, the anti-American, Bush hating far-left should back off. They honestly don’t have a clue about what they are talking about, and they are doing irreparable damage to our country.
I realize there are different points of view on war, and I do not believe the meek will inherit the earth, at least not in the next few hundred years. To those of the far-left, who will undoubtedly respond to this letter, let me say, “This is a strong country!!!” It has survived the uneducated thinking of the far-left before, and I’ll just bet it will again. Regardless of who is President, the people will not tolerate mass explosions on a daily basis, as our good friends in Israel have been forced to do. To protect that position of power, even Hillary will be forced to become a true hawk. To guarantee a few more votes Ted Kennedy may be forced to begin supporting a strong military. One more attack on America might even wipe the giddy, ‘I-am-finally-somebody’ grin from Nancy Pelosi’s face, and make her realize that is not about votes and personal power. IT IS ABOUT PROTECTING THIS GREAT COUNTRY FROM ALL ENEMIES, BOTH FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC.
Jimmy L. Cash, Brig. Gen., USAF, Ret.“
The jackass who shot up the mall in SLC was a Bosnian Muslim.
Why is this relevant? Well, if you’d grown up in the middle of a Christian/Muslim civil war and then moved to a predominately Christian state in a predomiately Christian nation and then decide to kill random people, could your religion be a factor? I think so. Just like if a Christian American went to Saudi and shot up a mall, it’d probably be relevant that he was Christian. That doesn�t necessarily mean he was motivated by religious hatred, but he might’ve been, and it is always important to get to the motive.
Interesting that the msm seems to be avoiding mention of his religious persuasion.
Big kudos to the off-duty Ogden police officer, Kenneth Hammond, who pinned the creep down. And to the SLC police for reacting so quickly. Six minutes and it was all over. No more “let’s wait for the “profssionals” (swat) to show up” like at Columbine.
We (dad anyway) are going to end up with several “extra” pieces of bowling alley. I was thinking of turning one 7 footish piece into a dining table. Maybe something like this?
